Watercooling

Advanced Team : [CoCo] Posts : 29 Location : Kempton

XFX make amazingly good watercooling units for single application. That would mean they have 1 unit for CPU, 1 unit for GPU and 1 for HDDS. Gigabyte makes a modular design called 3D galaxy.

If your looking for specialized W/C go XFX. IF you want easy W/C go Gigabyte Razz

[VAMP]Leader Team : [VAMP] Posts : 656 Location : Gauteng

Withch one is more pricey and how much do they cost aprocimatly

Advanced Team : [CoCo] Posts : 29 Location : Kempton

I have no idea... There is this AMAZING invention called a telephone... And then there are these things called shops which you contact with the cellphone to find out if the stuff we call products are available and what the cost... Sho!! What an amazing world we live it!!

[VAMP]Leader Team : [VAMP] Posts : 656 Location : Gauteng

HAHA yea or you call it google

Posts : 3 Location : Germiston

Quote :: if water cooling is what you want i would suggest going with the thermaltake bigwater range,that is if you have money to waste and know how to overclock.

Ive seen a rig with Thermaltake Bigwater range products, the guy had it for 2 months and sold it cause it was CRAP! He said that the fittings were flimsy despite their price. And the unit over all just didn't fit.

My opinion... Fan cooling is MUCH cheaper, easier and better.

Note that this is the WATER COOLING thread and mercury did not ask whats better between water and fans. He wanted to know weather water cooling would be the best way to go.

[VAMP]Leader Team : [VAMP] Posts : 656 Location : Gauteng

tHERMALTAKE ALWAYS IS GOOD WITH COOLING PCS

Natural poster Team : [VAMP] Posts : 35 Location : Politsi

Yeah, R4ziel, I can see your point that the R3K shouldnt make such a difference, but you gotta factor that I need a new mobo +-R2k, psu, another R1.5k and another graphics card, +-R2.5k. So overall, ure looking at R6k, I know its a lot, and I'll probrably only do it when the games get a bit tougher for my rig to handle, when it will get a bit cheaper for the same gfx card. But, now back to watercooling. The only problem is that for what you are paying for a water cooling kit, plus minus R2k (I live fffaaarrr from ANY major cities, so shipping comes in), the only advantages of water cooling is the overclocking of your rig. I'm not so sure about this because I've only mildly dabbled with OC'ing and I find that after I up my CPU to +- 3.5GHz I don't even get to POST, my mobo (dual-BIOS) auto resets the BIOS because of a problem. Is this because my vCore is too little or something? Okay, just read the letter through and it actually has nothing to do with watercooling, but will post it here anyway hoping R4ziel has some answers (and I dont feel like retyping it or starting a new thread) army gun

Advanced Team : [CoCo] Posts : 29 Location : Kempton

Thats fine D3void, Ill help you with your prob.

Shipping is a major issue even for people living close to suppliers as most of the people buying these type of rigs without our parents paying (no offence to anyone with rich parents) work in the hours they are open. I work a few km's from pinnacle but I have to go in my lunch hour which is JUST enough time to go there is I get a chance which means I don't eat lunch for the day. If you live far you can always make a plan with a friend, after all, your devoted to buying the stuff, why can't you make a plan around transport as that is the least worry when talking about computer parts.

When I talk about OC'ing im not talking about a bigger fan and 200mhz extra. Ive seen Q6600 quad cores at twice their speed running under a fan and working 100%. Water cooling is for noise prevention and space limitations. Or obviously High end rigs running their max clocks.

Your CPU should be able to handle 3.6 Stable... Post your full specs including mobo, memory (speeds too), CPU (Exact model with factory speed and fan used) and power supply. Ill see where your problem lies.

EDIT : Could you also please include your current overclock including Ram speeds and voltages.

u guys have been very helpfull (mostly raziel). yes u can cool a graphics card for only R740

http://www.sybaritic.co.za/store/product_info.php?cPath=72_249&products_id=13341

however i was looking at this (R1630) i was hoping u could take a look at it 4 me.

http://www.sybaritic.co.za/store/product_info.php?cPath=72_249&products_id=6084

except i would use "PC ICE" as coolant its sapposed to be non conductive.(except a bit pricey)

http://www.landmarkpc.co.za/store/primochill-nonconductive-liquid-cooling-fluid-blue-p-3462.html

i now about that riva tuning thingy but ASUS cards come with "Smart Doctor" which is very alike.
im open to suggestions about air cooling too (although my rig sounds like its about to take off any second now)

Main reasons i want watercooling
1 it looks cool
2 my rig gets really hot
3 my rig is bloody noisy

Advanced Team : [CoCo] Posts : 29 Location : Kempton

I thought you were gone Mercury Smile

It's always nice helping someone with something they know very little of. I like sharing experience, that is how I learnt to begin with.

Okay to look at the stuff you linked to...

1 : The Cooler Master system I have seen in more than 1 systems. I heard of a dude with dual 8800 Ultra's (Back when they were still the best) cooled by this product and he had no problem with temps. He also had Fan cooling for his CPU so the Cooler Master is good. Used a few Cooler Master cooling products myself and I think it's a good price. Also Cooler master made fans for AMD back in the day when they had heat issues and they were so good it became standard.

2: Vantec Stingray... Never heard of it... Vantec Ill put my life on the line for. Helped Build a pc with solely Vantec cooling and temps never went above 35 degrees (ambient). I was VERY much impressed with Vantec's products and I have also had one or 2 Vantec GFX cooling things (For my HD2900XT). They work Like the package says to be honest. No False advertising Smile

3: Keep in mind that the fluid does escape the system (If I figure out where it goes Ill tell you HEhe) SO buying that from the start will increase your maintenace by ALOT!!

Have a look at the Gigabyte Mercury, Ive built one of these accompanied (Perfectly) By the gigabyte 3D galaxy... WOW!! This was a high end rig with an imported Mobo and CPU which was over clocked to MAX and ran at 50 degrees stable. Although damn expensive you'll never need a fan again.

Your 3 points are the most common for going water cooling. A water cooled rig does not make any noise other than the water pump which is nothing compared to a standard CPU fan!

Here are some links Smile

Mercury : http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/Chassis/Products_Spec.aspx?ProductID=2327

3D galaxy : http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/LiquidCooling/Products_Spec.aspx?ProductID=2341&ProductName=3D%20Galaxy%20II

For the dudes feeling they have to try and be funny : Yes, I see there are fan's in the water cooling systems. These are all silent fans to cool water blocks and not heat sinks. So they are way lower RPM and Much quiter ... DUH. The mercury does contain fans, 2 to be exact. If those fans become audible you can take the case back because then the fan is faulty. They are -20db fans.... VERY Silent for those who don't know.

[VAMP]Leader Team : [VAMP] Posts : 656 Location : Gauteng

You can never EVER have enough fans ....If they are silent Razz

The 3d mercury looks really cool except im not really looking to upgrade my case. i have seen the 3d galaxy before except (corect me if im wrong) it unfortuneatly doesnt have graphics cooling. which is y i like the vantec stingray, it cools everything. wen u said:

3: Keep in mind that the fluid does escape the system (If I figure out where it goes Ill tell you HEhe) SO buying that from the start will increase your maintenace by ALOT!!

what exactly were u reffering to? and wat maintenace will i have to do?

ps. thx 4 all the help and advice (ur possibly the most helpful person on earth) Laughing

Advanced Team : [CoCo] Posts : 29 Location : Kempton

I had a friend who was big into over clocking.... He had a Mercury 3D and some Weird cooling system (N/C Fluid). This fluid, much the same as what you referred to, cost about $80 per 500ml. He bought 500ml per month and never figured out why the system became emptier over time. He tried 5 different makes of fluid and returned his W/C 3 times. Still the fluid escaped.

He went to water and gained 3 Degrees. Keep to water, it's free compared to expensive liquid.

Always a pleasure Bud Smile

Ps. You are correct, the Galaxy does not include GFX cooling. Sorry about that.

although water is free it also has the power to kill electronics with a single touch-not cool. so i guess id start off with PC ICE and later use water

ive looked at the 3d mercury its super cool but it costs R4800 and im no millionair. perhaps if i sold my kidney or something.......

Advanced Team : [CoCo] Posts : 29 Location : Kempton

Hehe, I have actually submerged a motherboard (running) into a tub of water... As long as it does not short out the PSU's wireing youll be fine. That mobo lasted for a year after the submarine test.

I know... I would also sell a kidney for it!

ur joking

(bout the motherboard not the kidney)

By the way ill accept any donations toward buying me the 3D Mercury case. Anyone? Very Happy

Advanced Team : [CoCo] Posts : 29 Location : Kempton

No, I had the mobo submerged for about 10 minutes while running and it became boring. I was just careful not to let the water come over the Power plug on the mobo

[VAMP]Leader Team : [VAMP] Posts : 656 Location : Gauteng

Can you get red watercooling?? for smilidon case??

yes example:
http://www.landmarkpc.co.za/store/primochill-nonconductive-liquid-cooling-fluid-p-3461.html

[VAMP]Leader Team : [VAMP] Posts : 656 Location : Gauteng

Mabey i should also go for watercooling my pc is quite loud

Team [VAMP]- the watercooling clan. lol

[VAMP]Leader Team : [VAMP] Posts : 656 Location : Gauteng

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Advanced Team : [CoCo] Posts : 29 Location : Kempton

[VAMP]Tobias wrote:: Mabey i should also go for watercooling my pc is quite loud

With you being so reckless with your case and never checking if everything is still firmly in place after you traveled I would say your more one for Fan cooling. You also will be wasting your money on W/C as your PC is Mid range when it comes to W/C. You also don't know anything about over clocking.

Take my advice, stick to fans.

[VAMP]Leader Team : [VAMP] Posts : 656 Location : Gauteng

I truley need a silencer for my fans they are loud but im getting use to it

cool 1000th post!